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Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-21T09:43:15Z

Links

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	*[[Media:Mos 6581 sid.pdf\|SID chip datasheet]] [https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=661 Web version]		*[[Media:Mos 6581 sid.pdf\|SID chip datasheet]] [https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=661 Web version]
	*[http://www.sidmusic.org/sid/sidtech.html Technical SID documentation]		*[http://www.sidmusic.org/sid/sidtech.html Technical SID documentation]
	*[https://github.com/libsidplayfp/SID_schematics/wiki SID internals documentation]		*[https://github.com/libsidplayfp/SID_schematics/wiki SID internals documentation] [http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4150 Understanding the SID]
	*[https://www.oxyron.de/html/registers_sid.html Oxyron SID reference]		*[https://www.oxyron.de/html/registers_sid.html Oxyron SID reference]
	*[https://ultimatesid.dk/ Ultimate SID Collection]		*[https://ultimatesid.dk/ Ultimate SID Collection]

Phi2x: /* Links */

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Links

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	*[https://youtu.be/fQU-WZZ67yM C64 SID vs Amiga Paula] [https://youtu.be/ioZRUVTKLx0 C64 SID vs Atari Pokey]		*[https://youtu.be/fQU-WZZ67yM C64 SID vs Amiga Paula] [https://youtu.be/ioZRUVTKLx0 C64 SID vs Atari Pokey]
	*[[Media:Mos 6581 sid.pdf\|SID chip datasheet]] [https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=661 Web version]		*[[Media:Mos 6581 sid.pdf\|SID chip datasheet]] [https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=661 Web version]
	*[http://www.sidmusic.org/sid/ Technical SID documentation]		*[http://www.sidmusic.org/sid/sidtech.html Technical SID documentation]
	*[https://github.com/libsidplayfp/SID_schematics/wiki SID internals documentation]		*[https://github.com/libsidplayfp/SID_schematics/wiki SID internals documentation]
	*[https://www.oxyron.de/html/registers_sid.html Oxyron SID reference]		*[https://www.oxyron.de/html/registers_sid.html Oxyron SID reference]

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-21T08:03:44Z

Links

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	*[https://youtu.be/fQU-WZZ67yM C64 SID vs Amiga Paula] [https://youtu.be/ioZRUVTKLx0 C64 SID vs Atari Pokey]		*[https://youtu.be/fQU-WZZ67yM C64 SID vs Amiga Paula] [https://youtu.be/ioZRUVTKLx0 C64 SID vs Atari Pokey]
	*[[Media:Mos 6581 sid.pdf\|SID chip datasheet]] [https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=661 Web version]		*[[Media:Mos 6581 sid.pdf\|SID chip datasheet]] [https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=661 Web version]
			*[http://www.sidmusic.org/sid/ Technical SID documentation]
	*[https://github.com/libsidplayfp/SID_schematics/wiki SID internals documentation]		*[https://github.com/libsidplayfp/SID_schematics/wiki SID internals documentation]
	*[https://www.oxyron.de/html/registers_sid.html Oxyron SID reference]		*[https://www.oxyron.de/html/registers_sid.html Oxyron SID reference]

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-20T13:47:52Z

Links

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	*[https://www.hvsc.c64.org/ High Voltage SID Collection]		*[https://www.hvsc.c64.org/ High Voltage SID Collection]
	*[https://youtu.be/Li-y42ie8-k Mix I] [https://youtu.be/b8ERcaXtK6E Mix II] [https://youtu.be/285q-PfYUYc Mix III] [https://youtu.be/NctPQfYFbI8 Mix IV] C64 Commodore music 1 hour		*[https://youtu.be/Li-y42ie8-k Mix I] [https://youtu.be/b8ERcaXtK6E Mix II] [https://youtu.be/285q-PfYUYc Mix III] [https://youtu.be/NctPQfYFbI8 Mix IV] C64 Commodore music 1 hour
	*[https://www.wothke.ch/tinyrsid/index.php webSID] Online SID chip ~~emulator~~		*[https://www.wothke.ch/tinyrsid/index.php webSID] [https://deepsid.chordian.net/ DeepSID] Online SID chip emulators

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	[[Category:Non CPC Computers]] [[Category:Music and sound\|*]] [[Category:Electronic Component]]		[[Category:Non CPC Computers]] [[Category:Music and sound\|*]] [[Category:Electronic Component]]

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-19T20:09:24Z

Links

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	*[https://ultimatesid.dk/ Ultimate SID Collection]		*[https://ultimatesid.dk/ Ultimate SID Collection]
	*[https://www.hvsc.c64.org/ High Voltage SID Collection]		*[https://www.hvsc.c64.org/ High Voltage SID Collection]
			*[https://youtu.be/Li-y42ie8-k Mix I] [https://youtu.be/b8ERcaXtK6E Mix II] [https://youtu.be/285q-PfYUYc Mix III] [https://youtu.be/NctPQfYFbI8 Mix IV] C64 Commodore music 1 hour
	*[https://www.wothke.ch/tinyrsid/index.php webSID] Online SID chip emulator		*[https://www.wothke.ch/tinyrsid/index.php webSID] Online SID chip emulator

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-16T13:39:43Z

Links

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	* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface]. Bryce never actually built the CPCSID, it only made it as far as a design concept on paper. [https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-(aka-sonique-sound-board)-sid-part-(wip)/msg114468/#msg114468 Source]		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface]. Bryce never actually built the CPCSID, it only made it as far as a design concept on paper. [https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-(aka-sonique-sound-board)-sid-part-(wip)/msg114468/#msg114468 Source]
	* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board], based on the SwinSID SID clone. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board], based on the SwinSID SID clone. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]
	* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID]		* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID] Speak&SID can use the original 6581, the 8580, as well as modern re-implementations of the SID chip such as SwinSID or ARMSID.
	* [[RSF3\|TMTLogic's RSF3]]		* [[RSF3\|TMTLogic's RSF3]] The ARM chip emulates the SID.

	According to [https://patents.google.com/patent/US4677890A/en Google patents for US4677890A], the patent for the SID chip is now expired.		According to [https://patents.google.com/patent/US4677890A/en Google patents for US4677890A], the patent for the SID chip is now expired.

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-16T06:40:08Z

Links

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	* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface]. Bryce never actually built the CPCSID, it only made it as far as a design concept on paper. [https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-(aka-sonique-sound-board)-sid-part-(wip)/msg114468/#msg114468 Source]		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface]. Bryce never actually built the CPCSID, it only made it as far as a design concept on paper. [https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-(aka-sonique-sound-board)-sid-part-(wip)/msg114468/#msg114468 Source]
	* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board]. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board], based on the SwinSID SID clone. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]
	* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID]		* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID]
	* [[RSF3\|TMTLogic's RSF3]]		* [[RSF3\|TMTLogic's RSF3]]

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-16T06:38:39Z

Links

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	Finally, you could play it with hardware too, with an extension. Read about it on:		Finally, you could play it with hardware too, with an extension. Read about it on:

	* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface].		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface]. Bryce never actually built the CPCSID, it only made it as far as a design concept on paper. [https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-(aka-sonique-sound-board)-sid-part-(wip)/msg114468/#msg114468 Source]
	* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board]. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board]. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]
	* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID]		* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID]

Phi2x: /* Links */

2025-04-16T06:34:03Z

Links

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	Finally, you could play it with hardware too, with an extension. Read about it on:		Finally, you could play it with hardware too, with an extension. Read about it on:

	* ~~Bryce's CPCSID interface~~ [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ ~~on CPCWiki forum~~].		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-sid/ Bryce's CPCSID interface].
	* ~~DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board~~ [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ ~~on CPCWiki forum~~].		* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/new-amstrad-cpc-sound-board-%28aka-sonique-sound-board%29-sid-part-%28wip%29/ DaDMaN's Sonique Sound Board]. You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]
			* [https://github.com/lambdamikel/Speak-SID LambdaMikel's Speak&SID]
	You can hear how DaDMaN's interface sounds here: [https://soundcloud.com/david-donaire-s-nchez/sets/amstrad-cpc-sonique-sound/ Playlist on SoundCloud]		* [[RSF3\|TMTLogic's RSF3]]

	According to [https://patents.google.com/patent/US4677890A/en Google patents for US4677890A], the patent for the SID chip is now expired.		According to [https://patents.google.com/patent/US4677890A/en Google patents for US4677890A], the patent for the SID chip is now expired.

Phi2x: /* Differences between SID chips */

2025-04-16T06:22:05Z

Differences between SID chips

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	*The ceramic filter caps at C10+C11 in the C64 play an important part in the filter offset point – regardless of the actual fitted SID		*The ceramic filter caps at C10+C11 in the C64 play an important part in the filter offset point – regardless of the actual fitted SID

	The 6581 and 8580 SID chips differ from each other in several ways:		The 6581 and 8580 SID chips differ from each other in several ways: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6581 Source]
	*The original 6581 was manufactured using the older NMOS process, which used 12V DC to operate. The 6581 is very sensitive to static discharge and if they weren't handled properly the filters would stop working, explaining the large number of dead 6581s in the market.		*The original 6581 was manufactured using the older NMOS process, which used 12V DC to operate. The 6581 is very sensitive to static discharge and if they weren't handled properly the filters would stop working, explaining the large number of dead 6581s in the market.
	*The 8580 was made using the HMOS-II process, which requires less power (9V DC), and therefore makes the IC run cooler. The 8580 is thus far more durable than the 6581. Also, due to more stable waveform generators, the bit-mixing effects are less noticeable and thus the combined waveforms come close to matching the original SID specification (which stated that they will be combined as a binary AND).		*The 8580 was made using the HMOS-II process, which requires less power (9V DC), and therefore makes the IC run cooler. The 8580 is thus far more durable than the 6581. Also, due to more stable waveform generators, the bit-mixing effects are less noticeable and thus the combined waveforms come close to matching the original SID specification (which stated that they will be combined as a binary AND).